I feel sorry for all you "you don't need college" ? in the next decade or so.
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1.) Power Industry
Until now, the utility companies existed as a safe career path where little more than storm-related outages and an occasional rate increase would cause industry officials to raise their eyebrows.
Yet the public has become increasingly vocal about their concerns over long-term health and environmental issues relating to the current structure and disseminating methods of of the power industry, causing a number of ingenious minds to look for a better way of doing things.
Recently I was introduced to two solutions that seem predestined to start the proverbial row of dominoes to start falling. There are likely many more waiting in the wings, but these two capitalize on existing variances found in nature and are unusually elegant in the way they solve the problem of generating clean power at a low cost.
Both companies have asked me to keep quiet about their technology until they are a bit farther along, but I will at least explain the overarching ramifications.
I should emphasize that both technologies are intended to work inside the current utility company structure, so the changes will happen within the industry itself.
To begin with, these technologies will shift utilities around the world from national grids to micro grids that can be scaled from a single home to entire cities. The ? power era will finally be over and the power lines that dangle menacingly over our neighborhoods, will begin to come down. All of them.
While the industry will go through a long-term shrinking trend, the immediate shift will cause many new jobs to be created.
Jobs Going Away
Power generation plants will begin to close down.
Coal plants will begin to close down.
Many railroad and transportation workers will no longer be needed.
Even wind farms, natural gas, and bio-fuel generators will begin to close down.
Ethanol plants will be phased out or repurposed.
Utility company engineers, gone.
Line repairmen, gone.
New Jobs Created
Manufacturing power generation units the size of ac units will go into full production.
Installation crews will begin to work around the clock.
The entire national grid will need to be taken down (a 20 year project). Much of it will be recycled and the recycling process alone will employ many thousands of people.
Micro-grid operations will open in every community requiring a new breed of engineers, managers, and regulators.
Many more.
2.) Automobile Transportation – Going Driverless
Over the next 10 years we will see the first wave of autonomous vehicles hit the roads, with some of the first inroads made by vehicles that deliver packages, groceries, and fast-mail envelopes.
The first wave of driverless vehicles will be luxury vehicles that allow you to kick back, listen to music, have a cup of coffee, stop wherever you need to along the way, stay productive in transit with connections to the Internet, make phone calls, and even watch a movie or two, for substantially less than the cost of today’s limos.
Driverless technology will initially require a driver, but it will quickly creep into everyday use much as airbags did. First as an expensive option for luxury cars, but eventually it will become a safety feature stipulated by the government.
The greatest benefits of this kind of automation won’t be realized until the driver’s hands are off the wheel. With over 2 million people involved in car accidents every year in the U.S., it won’t take long for legislators to be convinced that driverless cars are a substantially safer and more effective option.
The privilege of driving is about to be redefined.
Jobs Going Away
Taxi and limo drivers, gone.
Bus drivers, gone.
Truck drivers, gone.
Gas stations, parking lots, traffic cops, traffic courts, gone.
Fewer doctors and nurses will be needed to treat injuries.
Pizza (and other food) delivery drivers, gone.
Mail delivery drivers, gone.
FedEx and UPS delivery jobs, gone.
As people shift from owning their own vehicles to a transportation-on-demand system, the total number of vehicles manufactured will also begin to decline.
New Jobs Created
Delivery dispatchers
Traffic monitoring systems, although automated, will require a management team.
Automated traffic designers, architects, and engineers
Driverless “ride experience” people.
Driverless operating system engineers.
Emergency crews for when things go wrong.
3.) Education
I'm not saying all this will come to fruition. I'm not an economist. Nor am I a futurist. I'm not saying that some of this stuff might not be reaching. But what I will say is that I've read study after study and book after book this summer and the common thread is that education, like it or not, will be the currency of the future.
I even read a book on a flight(really short) that I borrowed from a friend and can't remember the name of, which said that cheap credit and a push to higher education has damned our futures. We have too many educated people, so now it's to the point that everyone needs to be.
I wasn't trying to ? on anyone, I made the thread title what it was b/c I wanted people in my thread to read the info cuz it's interesting. -
They say they suggest not going to college and to be an entrepreneur, because well, most of the ? we have today are from those kind of people.
Who's they? You could be the next Mark Zuckerberg....but probably not. You COULD be the next Michael Dell....but probably not. ? need to stop being stupid and take they ? to college.
There's some ? that's gonna bubble up to the surface about free trade agreements. In the 80's and 90's we opened up everything to globalization assuming we would have the workforce to transition from skills based to service based jobs, but we don't. People still have this idea that you can just get a diploma, get a job as an electrician, and call it a day. But those jobs are gonna see a reduction of about 25% in the next decade where as America will be short about 90K doctors in the next decade.
Smarten up gentlemen.
i disagree
college or not if your goal is not becoming a self sustaining independent business, then you automatically fail
? being a high priced slave with 200,000 dollars worth of debt when your 27 years old
either youre built for this or not ... fuckinf piece of paper aint helping with ? -
UPTOWN CONNEXX wrote: »They say they suggest not going to college and to be an entrepreneur, because well, most of the ? we have today are from those kind of people.
Who's they? You could be the next Mark Zuckerberg....but probably not. You COULD be the next Michael Dell....but probably not. ? need to stop being stupid and take they ? to college.
There's some ? that's gonna bubble up to the surface about free trade agreements. In the 80's and 90's we opened up everything to globalization assuming we would have the workforce to transition from skills based to service based jobs, but we don't. People still have this idea that you can just get a diploma, get a job as an electrician, and call it a day. But those jobs are gonna see a reduction of about 25% in the next decade where as America will be short about 90K doctors in the next decade.
Smarten up gentlemen.
i disagree
college or not if your goal is not becoming a self sustaining independent business, then you automatically fail
? being a high priced slave with 200,000 dollars worth of debt when your 27 years old
either youre built for this or not ... fuckinf piece of paper aint helping with ?
Gotta cosign this. The whole concept of getting a "job" is different than it used to be. School cant automatically save you. But its good to expand skills, but a lotta people go in thinkin theyll get a job when they come out and dont so they have nothing but debt. So gotta look out for yourself whatever you choose to do. -
What people fail to understand is that while there are the Mark Zuckerberg's and Bill Gates' who drop out of Harvard to start a business b/c they have an idea. But who do you think they are hiring to do the actual work? Mark Zuckerberg may have started Facebook with what he knew of computer programming, but you think he still does all the updates himself anymore? Do you really think that Facebook would have become what it is today if he didn't hire software engineers to do the programming, marketing majors to get the word out and figure out a niche, accounting majors to handle the company finances, business admin majors to ensure efficient running of day-to-day operations?
Same thing for Bill Gates.
Besides, education isn't about picking up skills or the know-how to do something. College education is about training your mind to think in a certain way so when a complex problem arrives at your desk, even if you don't have the knowledge to apply, you have the critical thinking skills necessary to figure it out.
yes this makes perfect sense!!!
but its all about perspective
who are all these nameless software engineers and marketing majors and how much do they make while zuckerburg sits back and counts billions?? if he really needs them that bad, then why cant they start their own programming or marketing firm instead of filling out an application for zuckerburg to look over??
fact is if you dont do it, someone else will, and if you want to much money, ? you ill get someone else to do it cheaper
all a college degree does is have a "school" vouch that they taught you some ? . but how are you going to avoid being just another ? in the matrix??
"when a complex problem arrives at your desk" LOL just that alone would give you bargaining power in any aspect of the business world. but a degree sets you up to be a slave before you can even use any of your leverage, because they teach you that their prestigious university is the finish line just like the stupid idea behind this thread
im not saying "dont go to college" but i find it VERY VERY FUNNY that all yall 28 thousand dollar loan ass ? stay looking down on those who go any other route. but yall have nothing more than the person who didnt go to college -
@cashmoney
explain your nosign bruh
college is highly overrated and a scam to create workers......
the fed govt sponsors that debt slavery while wasting my tax dollars
SMH @ a taxpayer's money being wasted on some ? 's useless degree so they can go work at Starbucks -
I didn't graduate college and I have been the lead marketing specialist for world pay bank, an oil company, and I'm interviewing for the marketing regional management position at the Hilton tomorrow for the whole southeast because I hate Houston (Austin is the ? though).
I write novels and do stand up. I wanna be the black woody Allen (with a splash of bill hicks/Dave chappelle). I want to be the storyteller of a generation through art, conversation, fashion, and sports. I went to school for English lit and dropped out. And I'm 26. -
damn i thought id be standing alone in this thread but already i see 4 different posters who can see the light
like i said tho ... college is needed for some
but i think its funny that a whole hell of alot of college kids talk this degree ? and dont really have anything that ppl who dont have degrees have -
College is a scam. And its for people without ideas. Anyone in here trying to say otherwise is made to be a worker bee. Unless finance science teaching law or medicine is your passion, then you have to shut up about how necessary college is...
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I was saying this a few years ago on the IC. Yeah as the economy gets back up the standards are gonna go up & it's gonna be important but IMO not necessary for success in life. For it's not the only road to glory.
However,a degree isn't necessary to win, the object of the game is to educate yourself, I find that the people who look down on school just don't want to do the work of learning. Cuz as much as they'll talk down on it, the same cats would dread opening a book to learn what they gotta know beforehand. Guess they figure they know everything already SMH.
Sure school may not be for everyone but if you're gonna make the conscious decision to make it in life w/o a degree you'd better be very passionate about what you want to do and eager to work & learn about your interest in some way or shape. I never look down on no man who's just trying to make some money to support his family, whatever you gotta do to prosper in this so called land of milk & honey.....
Remember, whether it's a degree or trade what's important to note is what separates the rich from the poor is EDUCATION. People will take chances on the guy with no degree if he knows his ? & has experience but having a degree may make things easier for you.
I agree and disagree tho
cause who says you need a professor when you can pick up a book yourself?
my beef with college is the inflated tuition and how colleges are cool with churning out marginally educated grads with ridiculous amounts of debt
meanwhile taxpayers are not getting a return on their money when corporations still choose which exclusive colleges to get their new workers from
taxpayers pay the cost, students waste years and end up in debt, some professor gets a salary, and a corporation gets an educated worker for free to make the corporation more money............I don't see how people thinks this ? is a good deal -
Sometimes, depending on the person and situation, Going to college is a better move than not though, definitely. Its all according.
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? Barack Obama was paying minimum debt payments on his student loans until he got that book check 3 years ago.
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Y'all ? wanna cite the few examples. Let's post them. Here's the list of college drop out billionaires in the entire world.
Bill Gates [5] - US
Mark Zuckerberg [6] - US
Lawrence Ellison [7] - US
Eike Batista [8] - Brazil
Michael Dell [9] - US
Marc Rich [10] - US
Ty Warner [11] - US
Gautam Adani [12] - India
Micky Jagtiani [13] - India
Shahid Balwa [14] - India
Subhash Chandra [15] - India
Vinod Goenka [16] - India
PNC Menon [17][18] - India
Roman Abramovich [19] - Russia
Sheldon Adelson [20] - US
Amancio Ortega [21] - Spain
Kirk Kerkorian [22] - US
Donald Newhouse [23] - US
François Pinault [24] - France
Jack Taylor [25] - US
Joaquín Guzmán Loera [26] (Mexican drug lord) - Mexico
David Geffen [27] - US
David Murdock [28] - US
Ted Turner [29] - US
Henry Fok [30] - Hong Kong
Ralph Lauren [31] - US
Mohammed Al Amoudi [32] - Saudi Arabia
Stanley ? [33] - Hong Kong
Dustin Moskovitz - US
Richard Li - Hong Kong
Just so you know.....there are roughly 1200 billionaires in the world. That list comes out to about 4%. 4% of the world's billionaires are college drop outs.
I'm not knocking anyone for bucking trends. Get it how you live. But you're playing with house money, and you COULD win the longshot, but probably not. All this ? about "entrepreneur, worker bee" is great. Don't get me wrong. I love the entrepreneurial spirit.
I'm starting to realize that we're probably looking at this from two different perspectives.
Okay, I work in Government Affairs/Public Policy w/e you wanna call it. As far as government policy goes, you can't just say "tell kids to become entrepreneurs." It's infeasible. It's not a prudent way of attacking the problem. -
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<--- doesnt have a college degree
<--- is about to go eat and wont be surprised if someone wit a degree is serving the table..
<--- is obviously losin for not havin a degree -
There is a healthy debate going on in this thread... props to everyone.
I have seen both sides of the situation. I know people who are in their late 20s/ early 30s who are "professional students". They live at home and sponge off their parents and/or are living with 5 roomates and a zillion dollars in debt through student loans. They are always 6 months to a year from coming up with the final idea in their thesis or business model that will make them millionaires and world-changers when they leave university.
But, on the flipside, I know people who hustled straight out of high school and are always looking for the "come-up" bouncing from one thing to the next who could have combined their "street smarts" with a little traditional education and got a lot further ahead. Sure those house parties made you money but you didn't think the cops were going to eventually shut you down for having improper permits and no liquor license? Sure that clothing business you were running was starting to pop off but when you needed extra capital and the traditional banks turned you down, you didn't think the "gentlemen" you borrowed money off of weren't going to want more than just their money back for helping you out?
Both traditional university degrees AND the school of hard knocks can be combined to make whatever you do in the working world even more successful.
Education comes in many forms...
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There is a healthy debate going on in this thread... props to everyone.
I have seen both sides of the situation. I know people who are in their late 20s/ early 30s who are "professional students". They live at home and sponge off their parents and/or are living with 5 roomates and a zillion dollars in debt through student loans. They are always 6 months to a year from coming up with the final idea in their thesis or business model that will make them millionaires and world-changers when they leave university.
But, on the flipside, I know people who hustled straight out of high school and are always looking for the "come-up" bouncing from one thing to the next who could have combined their "street smarts" with a little traditional education and got a lot further ahead. Sure those house parties made you money but you didn't think the cops were going to eventually shut you down for having improper permits and no liquor license? Sure that clothing business you were running was starting to pop off but when you needed extra capital and the traditional banks turned you down, you didn't think the "gentlemen" you borrowed money off of weren't going to want more than just their money back for helping you out?
Both traditional university degrees AND the school of hard knocks can be combined to make whatever you do in the working world even more successful.
Education comes in many forms...
Very true.
There is no emotion tied to what I'm saying. This isn't a value judgment. It's simply a reflection of what I've read over the last couple months. It's not saying you'll fail without college, just that the odds are against you. and not saying you'll succeed with a degree, just that the odds are ever in your favor. -
odds are agaist a person period..
a kid has jus as good a chance in climbin the ranks of a Drug organization as he foes a corporate one..
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The truth is...I came off salty...worker bee is a harsh term...disrespectful to those who grinding diligently.
Here is the problem...you can't call it dumb if people decide not to go to school. Going to a dinky ? college gets you nothing. There are certain fields that its mandatory. But right now...we need entrepreneurs to create jobs and come up with ideas, unique ideas for new fields to be established. -
@fucktheic a large percentage of American billionaires are on the list though.
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blakfyahking wrote: »I was saying this a few years ago on the IC. Yeah as the economy gets back up the standards are gonna go up & it's gonna be important but IMO not necessary for success in life. For it's not the only road to glory.
However,a degree isn't necessary to win, the object of the game is to educate yourself, I find that the people who look down on school just don't want to do the work of learning. Cuz as much as they'll talk down on it, the same cats would dread opening a book to learn what they gotta know beforehand. Guess they figure they know everything already SMH.
Sure school may not be for everyone but if you're gonna make the conscious decision to make it in life w/o a degree you'd better be very passionate about what you want to do and eager to work & learn about your interest in some way or shape. I never look down on no man who's just trying to make some money to support his family, whatever you gotta do to prosper in this so called land of milk & honey.....
Remember, whether it's a degree or trade what's important to note is what separates the rich from the poor is EDUCATION. People will take chances on the guy with no degree if he knows his ? & has experience but having a degree may make things easier for you.
I agree and disagree tho
cause who says you need a professor when you can pick up a book yourself?
my beef with college is the inflated tuition and how colleges are cool with churning out marginally educated grads with ridiculous amounts of debt
meanwhile taxpayers are not getting a return on their money when corporations still choose which exclusive colleges to get their new workers from
taxpayers pay the cost, students waste years and end up in debt, some professor gets a salary, and a corporation gets an educated worker for free to make the corporation more money............I don't see how people thinks this ? is a good deal
That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.
And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.
Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.
@soon great post brother! Respect
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evoljeanyes wrote: »@fucktheic a large percentage of American billionaires are on the list though.
No, a large percentage of the list is American.
But there are over 400 American billionaires. So the numbers still don't support what's being said.
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@sion ^^^^^
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That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.
And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.
Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.
I'm not knocking a college degree at all.......cause IMO they are useful IF you know what they are really for
I would always advocate for someone to get more education.......but the problem is the current system is unsustainable and only serves to benefit corporations in the end
the whole system is set up to create a herd of ? to work for some organization at the expense of my tax dollars
now I got an issue with that -
blakfyahking wrote: »That's the thing - you don't, but people have been drilled to only accept that because there's too many losses and too few people who did it w/o one to believe it's possible to do it w/o a degree. Unfortunately most people won't unless they have a reason to or are genuinely passionate to.
And King, an education does help folks and does make things go round. It may not immediately help things right away in the short term but over time the returns for society and the economy from an education coincide.
Funny how people with a degree will work very hard just so they can get back into the black by paying off all that debt and people without one will work very hard just to make even more money that they might be getting if they had that masters. Not really relevant to my post but it's just an interesting observation. That should tell folks that there ain't one method better than the other - however it may serve you better to have both the street and book smarts.
I'm not knocking a college degree at all.......cause IMO they are useful IF you know what they are really for
I would always advocate for someone to get more education.......but the problem is the current system is unsustainable and only serves to benefit corporations in the end
the whole system is set up to create a herd of ? to work for some organization at the expense of my tax dollars
now I got an issue with that
Some of these people with degrees need to create there own ? though. They can't all wait in line for jP Morgan investment jobs, and law firms to call. Create your own ? . We, young men, black, white, Latin, Asian, Persian, Indian, whatever, need to get together and create universal companies. The fact that we're all depending on someone else for jobs is our own fault. I swear on everything I will fly to a sit down with like minded people in different fields to create something amazing. But people are afraid of it. I have tried to bring people in on my personal thoughts and they always want to come back when money is made.
college gives you a starting point. It doesn't create limitations. That's people being weak minded -
@evoljeanyes,you said that you write novels have you had anything published ?
