The 2013 New Orleans Saints Off-season discussion thread
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how ironic is this ? right here. i have a good friend who i was on skype with. she is from meriden, ct. the saints make the pick for john jenkins. well my friend works with his mama. he was just there a couple of days ago.
i told her once he gets here he is gonna get bigger once he gets a taste of the food. ala sedrick ellis. lol.
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Shizlansky wrote: »ZydecoShawty wrote: »Chris Ivory got traded to the Jets for a 4th round pick.
Better then that 5th they offered us at first.
Good thing we waited.
That 4th immediately got flipped to trade back into the third so we could take John Jenkins
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I think the picks we've made so far a real good. Vaccaro can actually cover, Armstead ran a ? 4.71...? ridiculous for a OL. And please note...the Saints turn their small school OL into ProBowlers. They do more research on the OL for the draft than any other position. Jenkins is just a big beast. Hicks/Jenkins/Bunkley rotating at NT....now known as the #neckboneeatinmotherfuckers. Thats a big run stuffing line on paper:
RE: Hicks/Coleman/Smith
NT: Jenkins/Bunkley/Hicks
LE: Jordan/??? (maybe have Hicks and Smith play on the left sometimes)
We traded both both our 4ths to jump and get Jenkins in the 3rd....and I wouldn't be suprised if they jump back into the 4th. -
New Orleans Saints safety Malcolm Jenkins knows his future is uncertain with Kenny Vaccaro on board
"I think you obviously have to take the time and you don't want to just go off on a whim and you (the Saints) really look at the situation," Jenkins said Friday afternoon. "When it comes to Coach Payton, I know he's going to do what's best for the team. I definitely support the pick because he's a good player and he's going to help the team."
"When it comes to me, it puts a little bit of uncertainty as far as the future, but nothing in this game is guaranteed. It's part of the business," Jenkins said. "But what is guaranteed is an opportunity that we have this year that we have. I know Coach Payton is a big believer in this, and I wholeheartedly agree that competition breeds excellence. The best years that we've had is when we have a lot of competition for positions."
"Being a first-rounder doesn't necessarily mean that he comes in and starts right away," Jenkins said. "I understand that. ... Then again, he could flourish. But at the end of the day, it's about the competition. I'm actually looking forward to adding that to our team. I think he's a very versatile player. Obviously, it still brings uncertainty for me from a long-term stand point. But for the short term, I think it brings a lot of depth and versatility to our defense and we can all agree that we're trying to improve."
"As far as my own situation even before the draft yesterday (Thursday), this year is big for me," Jenkins said. "I love this team. I really do, from the coaches to the players, and I recognize the quality of the organization. That's rare in this league. This is somewhere I want to stay. To me, it's not really about the contract. I really enjoy going to work everyday with this guys, but that's not the nature of this league. It's not always the norm. My approach going into the season is that I'm going to prepare as hard as I can and play and let it work itself out."
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/04/new_orleans_saints_safety_malc_14.html
Malcolm Jenkins sounds like he's afraid or surprised by the team taking Kenny Vaccaro. Good ? ! Step yo ? game up or hit the road. Nobody got time for average, inconsistent play from you ? . -
I'm not big on Vaccaro but he's better then what we had. His coverages skills is much better then Harper.
When ever we draft a OLinemen I'm good with that cuz our scouts are top notch with that.
And Jenkins in the middle. That size can't be teach. Perfect for playing NT in the 3-4
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ZydecoShawty wrote: »New Orleans Saints safety Malcolm Jenkins knows his future is uncertain with Kenny Vaccaro on board
"I think you obviously have to take the time and you don't want to just go off on a whim and you (the Saints) really look at the situation," Jenkins said Friday afternoon. "When it comes to Coach Payton, I know he's going to do what's best for the team. I definitely support the pick because he's a good player and he's going to help the team."
"When it comes to me, it puts a little bit of uncertainty as far as the future, but nothing in this game is guaranteed. It's part of the business," Jenkins said. "But what is guaranteed is an opportunity that we have this year that we have. I know Coach Payton is a big believer in this, and I wholeheartedly agree that competition breeds excellence. The best years that we've had is when we have a lot of competition for positions."
"Being a first-rounder doesn't necessarily mean that he comes in and starts right away," Jenkins said. "I understand that. ... Then again, he could flourish. But at the end of the day, it's about the competition. I'm actually looking forward to adding that to our team. I think he's a very versatile player. Obviously, it still brings uncertainty for me from a long-term stand point. But for the short term, I think it brings a lot of depth and versatility to our defense and we can all agree that we're trying to improve."
"As far as my own situation even before the draft yesterday (Thursday), this year is big for me," Jenkins said. "I love this team. I really do, from the coaches to the players, and I recognize the quality of the organization. That's rare in this league. This is somewhere I want to stay. To me, it's not really about the contract. I really enjoy going to work everyday with this guys, but that's not the nature of this league. It's not always the norm. My approach going into the season is that I'm going to prepare as hard as I can and play and let it work itself out."
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/04/new_orleans_saints_safety_malc_14.html
Malcolm Jenkins sounds like he's afraid or surprised by the team taking Kenny Vaccaro. Good ? ! Step yo ? game up or hit the road. Nobody got time for average, inconsistent play from you ? .
He do need to step his game up....cuz it ain't like IAQ ain't pushing for that other safety spot. Don't be surprised to see KV paired up with IAQ &Jenkins during preseason to see which pair is better. Harper probably be on the field strictly in the box on runnin downs. Pretty much know he's gone next offseason lol.
But for real I think Jenkins development took a major hit after Sharper left and he was thrown in there like he was Sharper. Sharper had that ability to cover the whole backfield leaving Harper to do the only thing he know how...blitz & run support. Then when he goes down They expect Jenkins to do the same but that's a unique talent only HOF caliber safeties have IMO.
You take pressure off Jenkins when the other safety can not only come down in the box but cover too. So to me this interview shoulda been with Harper not Jenkins. Plus Harper like 31. -
PaperPlaneJane wrote: »ZydecoShawty wrote: »New Orleans Saints safety Malcolm Jenkins knows his future is uncertain with Kenny Vaccaro on board
"I think you obviously have to take the time and you don't want to just go off on a whim and you (the Saints) really look at the situation," Jenkins said Friday afternoon. "When it comes to Coach Payton, I know he's going to do what's best for the team. I definitely support the pick because he's a good player and he's going to help the team."
"When it comes to me, it puts a little bit of uncertainty as far as the future, but nothing in this game is guaranteed. It's part of the business," Jenkins said. "But what is guaranteed is an opportunity that we have this year that we have. I know Coach Payton is a big believer in this, and I wholeheartedly agree that competition breeds excellence. The best years that we've had is when we have a lot of competition for positions."
"Being a first-rounder doesn't necessarily mean that he comes in and starts right away," Jenkins said. "I understand that. ... Then again, he could flourish. But at the end of the day, it's about the competition. I'm actually looking forward to adding that to our team. I think he's a very versatile player. Obviously, it still brings uncertainty for me from a long-term stand point. But for the short term, I think it brings a lot of depth and versatility to our defense and we can all agree that we're trying to improve."
"As far as my own situation even before the draft yesterday (Thursday), this year is big for me," Jenkins said. "I love this team. I really do, from the coaches to the players, and I recognize the quality of the organization. That's rare in this league. This is somewhere I want to stay. To me, it's not really about the contract. I really enjoy going to work everyday with this guys, but that's not the nature of this league. It's not always the norm. My approach going into the season is that I'm going to prepare as hard as I can and play and let it work itself out."
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/04/new_orleans_saints_safety_malc_14.html
Malcolm Jenkins sounds like he's afraid or surprised by the team taking Kenny Vaccaro. Good ? ! Step yo ? game up or hit the road. Nobody got time for average, inconsistent play from you ? .
He do need to step his game up....cuz it ain't like IAQ ain't pushing for that other safety spot. Don't be surprised to see KV paired up with IAQ &Jenkins during preseason to see which pair is better. Harper probably be on the field strictly in the box on runnin downs. Pretty much know he's gone next offseason lol
I think Harper is a training camp casualty. No way he's going to get paid at that rate to be a part-time, situational player. He's TERRIBLE playing in the open-field on an island as a traditional defensive back. No way Ryan is going to waste his time and ? another year of team production trying to get him to be a cover safety in certain defensive sets with Vaccaro now on the roster.
http://youtu.be/FD3VTrzG4yA
Still can't get this ? out of my head. Look how fast everyone else was moving compared to Harper on that play. Why the ? did he slow down before Garcon caught the ball when he KNEW Garcon was going to catch the ball? Str8 up embarrassing.
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Great pick up.
Love it.
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Morgan & Stills?!?! There go your burners Mr. Brees.
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This Kenny Stills guy looks like he has some pretty good hands too. All of his catches appear to be with his hands and never his body. They say he is a good route runner too. Only weakness is that he can get jammed at the line when going against physical corners. Teams can get around that by motioning the receivers and stacking them alongside each other at the line of scrimmage. So that's not that big of a deal.
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damn good draft saints even with the limited picks, do work in the NFC south
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Don't know who this Johnson kid and I don't watch highlight tapes on players I don't know to find out if they are good. -
Wow the thread been jumping since I was out. I was up in VA by you @paperplanejane.
Love all the picks from today. Hate to see Ivory go but it was needed. -
We had a decent draft, can't wait until the season starts to see how we work
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Not gonna lie I was heated at the Vaccaro pick @ 15 w/ Eric Reid and Jarvis Jones still available but I trust Rob Ryan knows how to scheme to use all our safeties effectively for a welcome change.
Armstead was a steal! We stay finding gems on the o-line. Hopefully Charles Brown can step up to lock down that LT spot, be effective, and stay healthy so we can polish up Armstead.
Jenkins got first round talent but his effort & bad technique caused his fall and we snagged him but I like how he will fit into the rotation and work his way to being the starting NT.
Stills was a good pick. Speed, good hands, and a decent route runner. Now with Morgan and Toon we got a nice youth movement at WR.
Johnson may turn out to be a late round gem. He dominated given his level of competition at Tarleton State. Hope he pans out and will be a welcome addition to our DE rotation.
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I need to know who we picked up.
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Shawne Alston - Running Back, West Virginia (5-11, 236): Alston played four seasons for the Mountaineers, serving as a short yardage and goal line specialist. Playing in 37 career contests, he rushed 234 times for 1,068 yards (4.6 avg.) with 19 touchdowns and also registered six receptions for 14 yards. As a senior, Alston carried 75 times for 386 yards (5.1 avg.) and seven touchdowns in seven contests.
Glenn Foster - Defensive End, Illinois (6-4, 285): The Chicago native was a two-year starter at defensive tackle for the Illini, posting 73 tackles, 11 tackles for a loss, four sacks and an interception. As a senior in 2012, he started all 12 games at defensive tackle, totaling 31 tackles, 5.5 stops for a loss and 2.5 sacks.
Ryan Griffin - Quarterback, Tulane (6-5, 206): Griffin was a four-year starter for the Green Wave who appeared in 42 games with 39 starts, completing 836-of-1,396 passes for 9,026 yards, 79 touchdowns and 35 interceptions. The Westlake Village, Calif. native set Tulane career marks in attempts, completions, and completion percentage, finishing ranked second in passing yards, passing yards per game (214.9), attempts per game, completions per game, and 300-yard passing games (10). As a senior, Griffin started all nine games he played in and was named honorable-mention All-Conference USA after leading the team in total offense (2,644), attempts (394), completions (245), yardage (2,771), touchdowns (20) and passing efficiency (132.43), ranking second in the conference in passing yards per game (307.9). The Texas vs. The Nation All-Star Game MVP completed 14-of-18 passes for 214 yards and two touchdowns in the contest.
Josh Hill - Tight End, Idaho State (6-5, 229): Hill started all 11 games he played in as a senior and finished ranked second on the team in receptions as he hauled in 70 passes for 630 yards and five touchdowns while being named to the second team All-Big Sky and the Big Sky All-Academic team. The Blackfoot, Id. native collected 143 receptions for 1,270 yards and nine touchdowns in his career at Idaho State.
Ryan Lacy - Cornerback, Utah (5-9, 186): Lacy was a two-year starter for the Utes, posting career totals of 80 tackles, one sack, four stops for a loss, five interceptions, 16 passes defensed, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery. As a senior, he posted 22 tackles, two picks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery for a touchdown. As a junior, he earned honorable mention All-Pac 12 as he made 51 tackles, two picks and 10 passes defensed.
Tim Lelito - Guard, Grand Valley State (6-4, 315): Lelito started 45 consecutive games for Grand Valley State and was a two-time First-Team All-GLIAC selection. The St. Clair, Mich. native helped the Laker offense rank second in total offense (474.4) and scoring offense (41.9) last season while he was named the GLIAC Offensive Lineman of the Year.
Eric Martin - Linebacker, Nebraska (6-2, 250): Martin, who will compete at linebacker in the Saints' 3-4 alignment, moved into the starting lineup for the Cornhuskers as a senior at defensive end in 2012 and led the team with 8.5 sacks and 18 tackles for a loss, earning First Team All-Big Ten honors by writers and the Big Ten Network.
Elliot Mealer - Center, Michigan (6-5, 308): Mealer appeared in 50 career contests for Michigan along the offensive line and on special teams. The Wauseon, Ohio native started all 13 games at center for the Wolverines as a redshirt senior in 2012.
Keavon Milton - Tight End, Louisiana-Monroe (6-4, 293): The Canton, Texas, native appeared in 45 career games for the Warhawks and totaled 220 receiving yards on 25 receptions with four touchdowns. Milton appeared in all 13 games as a senior and finished with career-highs in receptions (14) and receiving yards (146) as he helped lead his team to an Advocare Independence Bowl appearance.
Kevin Reddick - Linebacker, North Carolina (6-1, 246): In four seasons with the Tar Heels, appearing in 50 games with 43 starts at middle linebacker, the New Bern, N.C. native posted career totals of 275 tackles, 36 stops for a loss, 8.5 sacks, two interceptions, 16 passes defensed, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery. As a senior, the All-ACC selection by league coaches paced UNC with 85 tackles, 6.5 sacks, a league-best 18.5 stops for a loss, two forced fumbles and six passes defensed.
Rayford Shipman - Linebacker, Central Florida (6-5, 242): Shipman played in 22 games for Central Florida and recorded 126 tackles (56 solo), eight tackles for a loss of 15 yards, four passes defensed and one interception after transferring from Florida where he played guard for the Gators basketball team. The Miramar, Fla. native started 12 games as a redshirt senior and amassed 91 tackles with 3.5 tackles for loss while being voted onto the Conference USA All-Academic Team.
Rod Sweeting - Cornerback, Georgia Tech (6-0, 187): Sweeting, whose 54 games played in his career tied for first in Ramblin Wreck history, was a two-year starter at cornerback and posted career totals of 160 tackles, one sack, five interceptions, 24 passes defensed, two forced fumbles and three fumble recoveries. As a senior in 2012, he posted 58 tackles, six tackles for a loss, a sack, an interception, seven passes defensed and one fumble recovery, his pick coming against Florida State QB E.J. Manuel in the ACC Championship game.
Chase Thomas - Linebacker, Stanford (6-3, 241): Thomas appeared in 52 games with 47 starts at both defensive end and outside linebacker at Stanford, finishing with 229 tackles, 27.5 sacks, 50.5 stops for a loss, two interceptions, nine forced fumbles and four fumble recoveries. An All-Pac 12 Conference first-team choice as a senior by league coaches and media, the Marietta, Ga. native finished second on the team with 71 tackles, tied for second with 14.5 stops for a loss and filled up the stat sheet with 7.5 sacks, one interception, four passes defensed, one forced fumble and two fumble recoveries. -
I got Ryan Griffin and Chase Thomas making the team.
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Shizlansky wrote: »I got Ryan Griffin and Chase Thomas making the team.
Agree with those 2...but I think its gone be a real good battle between a lot of those guys for a spot. I think its a toss up with C. Thomas & Reddick. Really like both. Actually surprised Thomas didn't get drafted.
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IF Shawne Alston makes the team that will tell you what they really think of Cadet and Ingram.
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IF Shawne Alston makes the team that will tell you what they really think of Cadet and Ingram.
If he do, I honestly think Thomas is the odd man out. -
http://youtu.be/Q-QfQI_eYwM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/ILB/Kevin-Reddick.php
I think Kevin Reddick can challenge for a spot at inside linebacker. The only guarantee we got there is Curtis Lofton. Rest of them ? is on notice. -
A few years down the road this past draft, with it being not so "star" heavy, is gonna make it painfully evident who the true talent evaluators are and with our picks and who we scooped as UDFA or who else we may bring in during mini camp really gonna show that we got some of the best in the business. Who Dat!?!
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New Orleans Saints Rookie Jersey Numbers April 30, 2013 10:34 AM | NewOrleansSaints.com
Below are the jersey numbers for the 2013 New Orleans Saints rookies:
Draft Picks
Kenny Vaccaro 32
Terron Armstead 72
John Jenkins 92
Kenny Stills 84
Rufus Johnson 59
Rookie Free Agents
Ryan Griffin 4
Ryan Lacy 29
Shawne Alston 34
Rod Sweeting 38
Rayford Shipman 46
Kevin Reddick 52
Chase Thomas 58
Elliot Mealer 61
Tim Lelito 68
Glenn Foster 74
Keavon Milton 83
Josh Hill 89
Eric Martin 55 -
Saints have $3.1 million in cap space after the Chris Ivory trade
Following last week’s draft-day trade of running back Chris Ivory from the New Orleans Saints to the New York Jets, the Saints have a little more salary cap space.
According to figures from the NFLPA, the Saints now have $3.1 million in cap space. By sending Ivory to the Jets for a fourth-round pick, the Saints were able to save Ivory’s $2.023 million salary.
Since landing with the Jets, Ivory has signed a three-year, $10 million contract.
The Saints can spend some of their cap savings to sign a remaining free agent. They’ll also need about $1.6 million to $2 million in cap space to sign their rookies.
