who better? westbrook or iverson
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THIRDSUPREME wrote: »You can't argue about basketball with Young nighad.gas.gShizlansky wrote: »He had Melo and got bounced out the first round.
So there goes the help theory.
That was on the downside of his career. Compare westbrook at this age vs iverson at the same age.
That's 10 years.
Kobe was killing after 10
LBJ james killing 10 years in
MJ killing 10 years in
Duncan killing 10 years in
I can name all the greats 10 years into their career still balling.
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Lol its obvious ? who come in here just posting off crazy ? without reading prior posts... which WOULD'VE detailed where the argument has gotten.Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
All career accomplishments.
What did we have to say about career accomplishments??
Meh. "All time great" is heavily accomplishment based. Russ just entering his prime....
The only debate to be had in this thread is a skill based comparison.
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years. -
Lol its obvious ? who come in here just posting off crazy ? without reading prior posts... which WOULD'VE detailed where the argument has gotten.Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
All career accomplishments.
What did we have to say about career accomplishments??
Meh. "All time great" is heavily accomplishment based. Russ just entering his prime....
The only debate to be had in this thread is a skill based comparison.
Its about the same thing. Dont you get your career accomplishments based on your skills? -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
He would to durant. -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
Another garbage terrible point Iverson shot 25,28,27,25,24 shots a game in his prime HE NEVER HAD TOO
Russ is leading the nba in scoring right now and for the 1st time in his career is shooting 20+ shots a game(21).If iverson ever played with durant he'd be 2nd fiddle too. -
Lol its obvious ? who come in here just posting off crazy ? without reading prior posts... which WOULD'VE detailed where the argument has gotten.Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
All career accomplishments.
What did we have to say about career accomplishments??
Meh. "All time great" is heavily accomplishment based. Russ just entering his prime....
The only debate to be had in this thread is a skill based comparison.
Its about the same thing. Dont you get your career accomplishments based on your skills?
Lol you aren't comprehending.
If you have two great players with similar skills, the player whose career is finished (15 years in the game) should obviously have more accolades than the player who is just entering his prime (7 years in the game). It wouldn't make sense to compare accomplishments. But you can compare skills at this point. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Westbrook >
Scoring - tie
Passing - Russ
Rebounding - Russ
Defense - Russ
If nobody in the next 10-15 comments addresses how this is wrong I think we're done here.
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You foolin if you dont think AI would be the #2 option next to KD.
KD is 6'11 with crazy range and handles like a guard. I can count on my hand the number of players who would take his spot as #1 option.
Shaq
MJ
Lebron (maybe)
Thats probably about it.Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
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thats funny cuz some really think westbrook is as good as durant
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Shizlansky wrote: »Westbrook >
Scoring - tie
Passing - Russ
Rebounding - Russ
Defense - Russ
If nobody in the next 10-15 comments addresses how this is wrong I think we're done here.
Already been done you ? ? -
Peezy_Jenkins wrote: »thats funny cuz some nobody that knows anything about basketball really think westbrook is as good as durant
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SheerExcellence wrote: »Also larry brown even explained away iversons misses, he said they wanted him to shoot more, they could get offensive boards and putbacks that way. Brown said a lot of those missed shots should have been assists, they built plays offa iverson just getting off bad shots but hitting the rim lightly so they could get a putback.
Before you laugh that this is absurd, realize that this brought them to 50+ wins every year and the nba finals.
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Quick, other than the heavenly 1-4 Finals win-loss, what was AI's next most successful season?
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Shizlansky wrote: »Westbrook >
Scoring - tie
Passing - Russ
Rebounding - Russ
Defense - Russ
If nobody in the next 10-15 comments addresses how this is wrong I think we're done here.
Already been done you ? ?
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
A.I isn't a better scorer than kobe or tmac. -
En-Fuego22 wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
A.I isn't a better scorer than kobe or tmac.
He's also not 6'7 -
its....JOHN B wrote: »En-Fuego22 wrote: »Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Yall crazy man
Let Westbrook carry a team full of role players to the finals then we can talk. AI was one Shaq injury away from leading that ? ass team to the title
Let Westbrook win a MVP then we can talk
Let Westbrook win 4 scoring titles
Let Westbrook average over 30 pts a season
How many All NBA first teams Westbrook got? AI got 4
I love Westbrook but he been playin second fiddle to KD all these years and now hes balling for a month and yall wanna put him over the GOAT lil man in the league with Isaiah
Theres a reason he was probably your favorite players favorite player growing upJohnQ_Public_ wrote: »JohnQ_Public_ wrote: »The greatest player ever for how small he was. Tough as hell never backed down from nobody. Carried his team.
What Westbrook do so far in his career
This is why I don't respect the Iverson arguments. People will say whatever they can about him to glorify him.
I was never even an Iverson fan but he carried that team with no help.
He was a great player
How can this post have three nosigns? I'm in awe b
Maybe if russ didnt play with the got damn scoring champ he would do these things then you sonned your own point if he's playing 2nd fiddle to Durant how do you expect him to win scoring titles or an mvp? Lol this dude said scoring titles from a player who's 2nd fiddle to the best scorer in the nba.If russ was on his own he'd have an mvp just like fellow inefficient ball hogs derrick rose and iverson
You iverson fans are struggling
Just proves my point. AI in his prime was the top scorer in the game, he wouldnt have to play second fiddle to nobody in those years.
A.I isn't a better scorer than kobe or tmac.
He's also not 6'7
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Quick, other than the heavenly 1-4 Finals win-loss, what was AI's next most successful season?
The Pound for Pound champ could not get his team past the second round after '01. He could not lead his team to a 50 win season in the weak ass East after '01. Seems to me that, if he was as feared and dominate as people say he was, then he would be able to drag at least one more squad past the second round. However he did rack up a lot of points tho. -
Quick, other than the heavenly 1-4 Finals win-loss, what was AI's next most successful season?
The Pound for Pound champ could not get his team past the second round after '01. He could not lead his team to a 50 win season in the weak ass East after '01. Seems to me that, if he was as feared and dominate as people say he was, then he would be able to drag at least one more squad past the second round. However he did rack up a lot of points tho.
He's not 6'7 lolololol -
Also if you are gonna compare stats between AI and Russ, you have to consider that AI averaged for his career 41.1 minutes per game. Russ is averaging 33.9 minutes. Big advantage if you just glimpse at their numbers.
I said I was done with this thread when cuzz said Larry Brown wanted AI to shoot bad shots so the team could get the offensive board. LMAO. WORST STRATEGY EVER! ? you think Brown left for? Tired of cheese steaks or tired of Iverson? -
If you don't think a player who is 6'7 has advantage over a player who is 6'1 then your parents failed you
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its....JOHN B wrote: »If you don't think a player who is 6'7 has advantage over a player who is 5'11 then your parents failed you
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Shizlansky wrote: »THIRDSUPREME wrote: »You can't argue about basketball with Young nighad.gas.gShizlansky wrote: »He had Melo and got bounced out the first round.
So there goes the help theory.
That was on the downside of his career. Compare westbrook at this age vs iverson at the same age.
That's 10 years.
Kobe was killing after 10
LBJ james killing 10 years in
MJ killing 10 years in
Duncan killing 10 years in
I can name all the greats 10 years into their career still balling.
What about Westbrook...what was he doing in his 10th year?
Yeah....sso let's compare what we can compare ? .
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En-Fuego22 wrote: »Quick, other than the heavenly 1-4 Finals win-loss, what was AI's next most successful season?
The Pound for Pound champ could not get his team past the second round after '01. He could not lead his team to a 50 win season in the weak ass East after '01. Seems to me that, if he was as feared and dominate as people say he was, then he would be able to drag at least one more squad past the second round. However he did rack up a lot of points tho.
He's not 6'7 lolololol
TMac NEVER led his team past the first round and was the scoring champ twice to AI's 4.....lolololol
